Almost all builders count the hunt deck as part of the length. Location: Old East Dallas, Texas. MMT Addict. The area we both hunt has mostly hard sand bottom and the these other types of frame design seem to run the shallow hard sand a tad bit better than the PD due to the skeg. Share. Posts: 605. When it was new, it would idle in gear, in the water (under load) for hours if need be. Posts: 183. Kawasaki FX921V & FX1000V Copperhead 23 rpms. Motor runs good idles good when prop is out the water. Made an adjustment at the governor and now it turns just under 3,600 in the water. Have a KS 1 switch. Location: Michigan. Sumter, South Carolina. Back H2o SWOMP 23 SS stage 2 15x36 GD Duck Skiff GATOR GATOR GLIDE PROSTAFF Location: Slidell, LA. Have you greased the lower unit lately? I ask because you could have over greased it and there is grease on the clutch. Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:44 pm Posts: 13 PPF wood duck vs Backwater swomp lite glider. No public land for duck commanders is what he says. Sent using Morse Code from my not so smart phone. Is anyone familiar with the River Run mud motors? the offer small MM's with a neutral clutch standard; and a reverse feature is available too. Re: HDR 40 VS. It's an all around better frame than the mini, unless you are more concerned with the weight of the motor than the performance. I though the bendix was centrifugally driven upwards?I've heard this motors should run non ethanol gas. And to further clarify, I hunt the White River Bottoms in AR. I can run 30. I'm new to the mud motors and really duck boats in general. Speeds | Deep Water:almost the same as shallow, 1mph slower at times. _________________. I did do a search, but yes, here is another Predator question. The propeller tolerance should be checked. Posts: 37. All open floor with split bench in back with an Avery blind plus duck gear and would like some insight on what yall think is best between the 2. Re: Copperhead 23 reviews. Page 1 of 1. Re: centrifugal clutches. Re: Mud Motor vs. Any of yal do any duck hunting therep. When loaded down they won't plane properly, and they can't handle the mud or properly handle the weight of these motors. JPG The only thing that is chipped now after 2 years is the floor and the bow where I hit and pushed stuff. Predator 670 motor help needed. i6/50 GT W 4400 Hdr i have always ran a Hammer,like it cause its beefier and last longer than a BB. If your rpms are high, you can go to a 9x7 and your rpms will drop about 200. Re: What’s the best performance hull for a pro drive? My 1685lb hull performs really good steering and driving in chop and up curving creeks. Is anyone familiar with the River Run mud motors? the offer small MM's with a neutral clutch standard; and a reverse feature is available too. We tested a 12hp, 18hp, an older 20 hp MB Hyperdrive and a 27 Pro-Drive. Re: Dam B, Texas duck hunting. Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:54 pm. Carb and exhaust, will do good also. If the belt is tight then it could be the clutch. It works pretty well and I put my gps mount on the adjustable. Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:11 pm Posts: 556 Location: Metairie, LA Re: Black Cloud ammo problems. My carb is getting to much fuel and floods. Excel 1851F4 w/ MB35HD+R CDI with a little bit of this and little bit of that. Location: Boone docs Louisiana. It's a key start. Re: Wanted: Duck Lease 2014-2015 (Delacroix/Reggio/Caernarvo I hunt in a club that has leases down there all the way from lake lery down to past 4 horse lake, and on N Reggio down to petain. For the best results I would apply directly to the aluminum. the original/oem cable on my gator tail is much thicker/beefier. 016 Oil Filter (49065-2071, 49065-2078, 49065-7010)Copperhead 23 rpms. MMT Member. Most years we have to cut our way upstream with axe and chainsaw. 1644 Southfork with 2009 23hp GTR. 035. This is not a race, it is not a poker run, it is just a cruise. Last visit was: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:33 pm: It is currently Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:33 pmRe: Run perfect on trailer bogs down under load. Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:03 pm. The motor stock is 36 hp now with the stage 3 motor upgrade with a 42MM makuni Flat slide carb, new cam with longer duration taller lift , longer billet rods, shaved pistons shaved cylinder heads also heads are ported and polished to match high volume intake and exhaust, larger intake and exhaust valves. More room,more stablity,handles chopy waters and winds alot better and I only lost 1 mile per hour. The bearings are in the flared housings on the outdrive. Details 1. mallard maasher Discussion starter ·. Posts: 18. Subscribe. Re: SeaDek vs AquaTraction. On a stock motor I was turning a big blade 3800 bout 21-22 mph. 5 MPH. Has anyone bought or seen gator tails duck blind on the gator tail boats using the T-Rail gunnel? I'm wondering how it functions. Set to continuity and test the leads and you should see Open loop then when you pull the kill switch you should see something reading resistance. I DO NOT OWN THE RIGHT. GatorGlide and GatorBase sticks better than anything I've found in 35 years of painting. Haven't heard of Wetlander. 3 blade harder to spin than 2 blade if everything is equal. Re: killswitch problems. I can load it with 3 good sized guys all 215+ pounds, 2 dogs, 5 dozen weighted keel mallards and 1 1/2 dozen floater geese, personal gear and everything else needed for a duck trip and still get on step pretty quick in shallow water and run 24-27 mph depending on. I have an Excel 1860 F4. Set to continuity and test the leads and you should see Open loop then when you pull the kill switch you should see something reading resistance. Re: 9" Prop for 25 GTR Big Block. . Ours was built in 2013 with roller rockers, rods, pistons, performance heads ,cam and valves. 5 HP Predator, cost $110 at my local Harbor Freight. Turn the idle screw in a few turns. Most trailer axles come with crappy Chinese wheel bearings. Honestly I don't expect it to do much, not really. You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. (pink and white styrofoam insulation from Home Depot) Speeds | Shallow Water:1 person no gear 25. Location: Stuck in the marsh, LA. Sparkleberry Swamp Duck Run 2020 same thing, different year ride through the swamp and head to 601 sandbar meeting in front of packs around 9:30/10 y’all know the deal. Looks like a high school shop project that a blind kid completed. It is all down the one side of my belt housing , little bit on top of belt housing and looks of some sprayed on. The Sparkle Berry Duck Run he is talking about doesn't occur during duck season. . Tools required: You will need a crescent wrench, some pliers and a screw driver. Copperhead height above transom. I've been emailing Uncle-J about building a boat. Just picked up a brand new Copperhead 23. Anyone have one? Looking at getting one for a carstens canvasback. NEWSPAPER ARCHIVES: Vancouver Daily Province Archives 1894 - 2021. 3 more push than 2 at same rpm. So you got more clearance then you do with a GTR. _________________. Although the gap can vary from . MMT Pro Member. A socket-wrench set makes things much quicker. Stock 23 GTR with 3 ribbed Southfork 1644. Re: Boat Dr new 12. Comments:This is actually an updated review from a year or so ago. Working with Nick Peltier on a build- heads, cam, hex shaft and a tune on PD 40 EFI. I want to install a killswitch. Gas tank in front deck. Last visit was: Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:24 am: It is currently Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:24 amRun a 220 main and 22. 1854 gets my vote for best all around sized boat. You can run the motor at idle in gear and put your hand on the outdrive in those locations and feel if the bearings are grinding. I've read the forums and it seems the 18x56 turns better and has a bit higher sides, but drafts about a quarter inch more water. #Whoneedsphysicsihaveamudmotor. Mud Buddy 37efi HDR Tall transom. make sure the switch is grounded properly to the HANDLE, has no flat spots and is connected to the terminal ground screw which is if you are. Stock ( for now ) Harbor Freight 212cc engine. I am assuming NON cdi, You can have a diode issue in the harness. Used to carry 8-10 people around a half mile or so a day for most of duck season. when i went to change the throttle cable on my gator tail gtr35, i found the new one i bought (for a go devil surface drive) has a smaller end connection (to the linkages behind the air filter). I have GG. Clutch let go at 48 hours, so I thought it was that again when my rpms went sky high. Posts: 5. Total Boat Load With Gear Etc: Light = myself 195lbs, 1 battery, 8 gal gas, misc gear in storage areas. PPF wood duck vs Backwater swomp lite glider . Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. Just know that has no association. im in central florida. orginal owner of 18 hp Vanguard Go Devil, purchased 1994. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. gt throttle cable. The excel has a mb hd 35 and the prodigy has a 4400 bd hdr. MMT Addict. The length is the bottom of the boat - it doesn't matter that part of it is enclosed. I have cam and heads but this should be a good starting point. Re: 13 hp beaver dam longtail. Re: lost Key. You loosen a bushing to relieve pressure when greasing the old style. That's not even really related to the Predator though. Here is an update on a couple of Dixie's and Choppers pups from their litter in July 2012. I cracked the motor case last duck season, along with a number of other small issues that needed tending to. Posts: 1103. (CH25S) on a godevil long tail=mounted on a godevil 16x44 hull. Re: Damn you 25 efi! The 25 will run on an 18x40, Gator tail sells 18x40's with either the 25hp or 35hp option. _____ Re: 2 blade prop destroying hunting season 37XD. 35hd mud buudy issues. It's on a riveted 1436 Jon boat, weights like 160lbs. Re: !!!MudBuddy Issue!!! There could have been rust on a valve making it stick, adjuster come loose or other things. Go-Devil Props. 17x54 custom CC with stage 3 GTR. Get a long drill bit and drill a pilot hole all the way through from top to bottom where you want it. Re: Go Devil Swivel. Last visit was: Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:45 am: It is currently Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:45 amrun it hard af or put it up. Last visit was: Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:59 am. Thu May 21, 2015 2:25 pm. I didn’t stop and look close to see if it seemed durable or not. Mikuni will get you a better idle. Duck bill is nice for flooded timber and it cut through some flooded willow tops like butter. Plus and outboard will probably have a better weight to power ratio to push it. Posts: 3833. Re: Tracker 1648 w/ a SWOMP 35. It would be nice to inspect and lube the valves / valve guides. Looking at getting a 9hp and wondered if one was better than the other. Re: Trim and tilt not working? Agree its probably the switch on the football, when the trim won't work in either direction the common points are the ckt breaker, switch, or actuator. Bought a MSR Hp AOF pro clutch lever at local motorcycle shop in town. Duck Run. The boat handles well and will turn on a dime. I used my airless and got it to spray it but seems like its spraying too much paint. Fix: polish that cam lobe with 600 wet paper. Looking for my first duck boat and mud motor. Hate to spend the extra $$ on a GD Brand, but I have been a loyal customer and am a little. 180# driver +200# of gear = 22 to 25 mph. Did 2 coats. Re: Advice on surface drive mud motor. Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 183 guests. Only 3 people I know run the prop currently, a buddy with a highly modded willey fast motor, a guy in Morgan city, and me. You can adjust the idle circuit needles as well. Cut the wires as close to the switch as possible and splice the two ends together. 17 x 44 Southfork Mud Hull with a 25hp Big Block Mudbuddy. The hardest wheels are prodrive and go devil wheels. thanks man. a 20'x44'' skiff runs well with a 27kholer. They use Kohler engines: 7, 9. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. Re: Copperhead 23 reviews. 2016 Sparkleberry Swamp Duck Run All credit goes to Mike Anderson for creating this video. Please Help! Leak test to make sure the valves are sealing, and also make sure your coil is Firing. Joined: Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:06 pm. Re: 2013 Sc Sparkleberry duck run! If you just cruise the run and don't bs around the stations you can be at graduation by 6. . im not going to jump on anything when im ready ill have until next season to decide but ive read a ton of good things about the copperhead pushing a big load very well. I'm from crosby texas and looking to get my old prop cupped for 9 inches for the refuge rules,I have a 23 mud buddy mini. In 1989 Shannon "Mac"" McKinney came to my platoon in Cco 3/75 Ranger. Just run right into the cattails or roseau canes. Pinewood, South Carolina Hosts Alan Flores Caroline B Crater Packs Landing 2012 Sparkleberry Swamp Duck Run Hotties. shaggy blind (not installed yet) Keep your eye on their IG for more photos of my boat and on mine @prodigyboats & @ctm_luke. Re: PPF wood duck w/ beavertail final attack. I can load it with 3 good sized guys all 215+ pounds, 2 dogs, 5 dozen weighted keel mallards and 1 1/2 dozen floater geese, personal gear and everything else needed for a duck trip and still get on step pretty quick in shallow water and run 24-27 mph depending on. So yes to your question. Personal preference. The stock 22hp Predator is a California emissions engine. Posts: 107. Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:42 am: da go get'er. If your rpms are low, you can go to a 9x5 and your rpms will increase about 200. Location: greensboro n. Last visit was: Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:38 am: It is currently Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:38 amVideo and Picture highlights from the Duck Run that took place in the Sparkleberry Swamp off of the Santee River in the summer of 2009. Spark Plug Type for Large Vanguard. Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:28 pm Posts: 45 Re: Mud Buddy HDR - Problems in Reverse. 1754 prodigy vs 1854 prodigy. So yes buy something different It's simple. I have recently noticed a drag when I hit lillies, it was sudden as if someone was hitting the brakes. Both are great motors I got one and another guy that duck hunts with me has the PD. I'm looking at mounting a 23hp on the back of my bowfishing rig but it has a pusher fan mounted so I'm not sure if. Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:47 am Posts: 17 Re: Go devil gone bad. They are doing it on the mini frame also. Joined: Thu May 12, 2016 4:33 pm. 2. Re: Spud Pole Holes for Go Devil Boat. Posts: 4781. The 22hp wasn't alot faster, but it did have alot more torque. 3 coats, waiting till its completely dry between coats. Duck Run. Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:42 am. U may have to use a cheater pipe on it if it's been a while since removed. Since folks are always asking which prop performs best on a GatorTail, I decided to get a few of the available props and put them to the test side by side in the exact conditions at the exact time to see exactly which prop performs best in different conditions. I run a 9x6 on my 23lt. ran a solid 34mph deep water at 4480rpm this weekend and ran 29. The ca57 for the gatortail and the hammer prop are also hard hard wheels. Re: Kem 400. Re: 16 hp duromax. It came from the factory with 492932, but I purchased the 842921. on it but when I try to idle under load, it often slowly dies after about 30 seconds. Hmm. I was expecting speeds close to 30mph. Location: The duck Mecca called Ga! Re: INFLATABLE BOAT AND MUD BUDDY. Other than that their all the same. Just make sure you run the right spring in it. It is a Briggs Vanguard on a Copperhead frame and will run like any other Briggs Vanguard (pretty much every GT, Prodrive, and Mudbuddy except the 25's and 27's is a Vanguard). Posts: 10388. And like stated above, it took about 3 day of me not doing anything to it before it started to really get rock hard. Changed to 2 blade prop. I'd have to wait about 30 seconds, choke it and run the rest of the way to the blind with it 1/4. Keep in mind I've only run this boat with these new mods for about 10 minutes, so I'm sure there's a bit more to be desired. Posts: 35. Hey ichabod. I have steel flex on the bottom of a 1436 with a LT on it. Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:48 pm. Also if others run across additional information, please add to it. 1754 Gator Trax Hybrid, Hunt Deck ,with MB 4400 Black Death HDR, Duck Slaying, Mud Slingin Machine!!! Sun May 02, 2021 4:22 pm: Page 1 of 1 [ 12 posts ] Board index » MMT Main Forums » Engines & Engine Mod Talk. Twist it right off. However the cost associated with the blind, and trailer make the 2 ft longer 1838 23hp more expensive than the 1644 27hp rig. Each time the motor bogged down and shut off about 80% of the way to the blind with about a 500 pound load (2 guys and gear). Speeds were taken with Navionics GPS app on my iPhone. Outboard with Jack Plate. 16. Re: Hoss 75. i want the fastest and lightest boat possible. c. This should be a nice set up. I use a good synthetic oil, but you don't have to. . 5 it might be just what we need to get through another hunting/trapping season or two. Posts: 701. Run it on a fiberglass Indian River canoe. For the kill switch typically any two across from each other are the ones you want to connect. 5 river run on the same boat didn't come close. River Run Surface drive motors. Re: Greasing go-devils. Location: Rowlett, TX. Couple questions for the guys who have removed the foam from there Go Devil boats. Pro Drive Vanguard 36 Problems. Easy once you get used to it. On my third clutch, first went at about 30 hours. Re: Bottom Coating for aluminum boat. Jason and crew came through perfect on this skiff. 58 after tax. 16/44 is a nice size boat the 35 will get you up on plane but easing through shallows your but ill be dragin, the 27 will be 90lbs lighter but you will give up the top speed. Hunt Deck ,with MB 4400 Black Death HDR, Duck Slaying, Mud Slingin Machine!!! Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:04 pm:. You can test with a meter to verify. MMT Super Elite Member. Re: Prop Pitch ?'s. The GT serial number is what their agent is looking for. I always used a long narrow socket wrench wedged it through the middle of the u joint coming out of the back of the motor. . IMG_2511. Our large block Vanguard engines come with a Champion RC12YC spark plug. I have hunted 2 kids and 2 adults out of the boat comfortably. Last visit was: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:23 pm: It is currently Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:23 pm Location: Gladewater TX. I would 1. This will tell u if it is excessive or not and may point u in the right direction of issue _____ 1754 GTR Xtreme CC w/ Purple. has a seperate red wire lead attached on the side of key switch. Re: 22hp predatpr mods and top speeds. Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:39 pm: 50fps. 5 pilot e clip 1 position up from middle. I've been using 93 octane from a gas station. several years later (mid 1990's) they used a long tail mud buddy in one of the texas hunts. I have the gtr on it. The 16 footer fits in the garage. pull on the 2 wires going into the clutch. . Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:43 am: Stinkymud. Lund Alaskan Beavertail Blind Install*Update*. 35 GDSD STAGE 2-18x44 GUTTED GD. I have personaly weighed a 35 hunter short. Location: south Florida. Joined: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:07 am. The rest are hanging on nails in the trees and im tempted to go ahead and bait them up when i run tomorrow. Well, same thing happened to me last night. Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:24 pm. Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:40 am. 2mph, just me no load. _________________. MMT Super Elite Member. Location: Decatur, IL. So roughly 400 pounds in the boat plus two. Posts: 6441. MMT Pro Member. MM Brand: Dixie Mud Motors Horsepower: 18hp Boat Brand: Tracker Grizzly Boat Size: 1448 MV 20"transom Boat Layout: Open floor, one bench in back,& big deckMudmotorTalk. don't judge me. Joined: Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:46 am. 2. MMT Member. 0-32. Third time I went out solo again, scouted some new areas, found a good concentration of frogs. Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:50 pm. Joined: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:56 pm. Put one on a lanyard attached to the motor and put one tie wrapped in the boat somewhere. Posts: 155. Joined: Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:19 am. 8 with 5 people and 2 icechest. com. For the best results I would apply directly to the aluminum. _________________. Bearing failure in the outdrive is usually due to failed seals on the outdrive allowing water in that causes corrosion on the. Am not sure how to connect. Share. When running with the tank in the bow use 5/16 or 1/4 fuel line. What I wanna know is if the prodigy that I have is any tougher than his 1651 exel. Re: Vanguard serial number. _________________. The best possibly being ProDrive's new. Put the opposite bullet connection Male/female on the other end of the short section of wire. The coils can fire, But a bad diode will allow the current to backfeed and kill the opposite coil. Wchauvin. Location: West Monroe, LA. With me and one adult I can't run over 23mph. Location: Belle Chasse, LA. I used to run a BDMR 1st with the predator 13hp, then with a 22hp predator. Joined: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:41 pm Posts: 485 Re: Baptiste Colette. This is a short transom PD Notice the Knuckle is at the transom bracket. Duck Hunters fighting. ride through the swamp and head to 601 sandbar.